From the River to the Sea: Ibaitik Itsasora (36) eta Scott Ritter

Gaza BEFORE Israel showed up

Israel is a criminal state

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[Music] all right guys welcome back to the show you’ve seen him here before Scott

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Ritter welcome back Scott what’s going on why are you surprised that I was on

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time people aren’t usually on time people aren usually on

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time I’m doing well thank you yourself doing good doing good it’s been a lot of

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uh a lot of news um that we’ve been kind of going through but for those who are not aware if you’ve never seen Scott

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here Scott is um was a former un special weapons uh inspector so Scott the first

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thing I want to ask you about um with Russia there was this announcement from

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the EU and it said they said the EU wants to

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arm itself for a possible major war in

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Europe and from what I read about this it goes on to say according to the European commission the

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EU must immediately prepare for the real possibility of a large scale war with

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Russia and it almost kind of sounds like they do not want to depend on the west

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anymore they want to arm themselves why do you think they they

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think this is a good idea well I don’t know I mean because it’s not a good idea so it’s uh it’s

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impossible really to you know

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I let’s put it this way Europe has been beholden to the United States for nearly

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eight decades now since the end of the second world war the United States has been the Big Brother um you know

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we NATO was a vehicle um for America to

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maintain a permanent military presence in Europe ostensibly to sh serve as a

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shield against the Soviet Union during the Cold War and then later um to

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continue to assert American hegemony over Europe to transform NATO into not something more

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than a transatlantic um defensive Alliance but into a vehicle of global

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Military domination if you take a look at you know what NATO’s been talking about you know moving to the Pacific

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it’s always curious how a North Atlantic Treaty Organization justifies a Pacific Mission but you know

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that’s what NATO was doing I remember in the um there was a period time I I I attended a conference in uh in Abu Dhabi

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uh hosted by NATO uh about a NATO mission to the Persian Gulf NATO setting

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up permanent military um facilities in the Persian Gulf for a NATO presence to

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expand into the Persian Gulf NATO has um you know talked about about dominating

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North Africa um NATO has become an expansive um tool

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because what NATO was was an extension of American foreign policy and national

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security policy um and during this entire transformation you have European

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political and economic Elites that are profiting from this uh their entire careers are built upon rubber stamping

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this American Vision of um using NATO as the enforcement arm of the

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rules-based international order you know this is straight up Biden Administration

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nonsense uh when you know the Biden Administration published a national security strategy document that said it

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is that the purpose of the United States the the foremost purpose is to defend

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the rules-based international order I always thought it was you know to defend democracy or to defend freedom but

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apparently uh it’s the rules-based international order um and these people

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that we see the urilla Vons and others they are um the European bureaucratic

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class these are the people who uh the rules-based international order has given birth to and so now having come

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into power they are threatened by a trump Administration that is saying

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we’re not playing this game anymore I mean Donald Trump literally ran on a platform that said that the rules-based

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international order is the greatest threat to International Peace and security When Donald Trump spoke last

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September and said that the the number one threat to America in the world is

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America itself because of the rules-based international order you know all these Europeans stood up and went

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wait a minute that’s us um and and again I just want to remind people you know it

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wasn’t just a throwaway comment that JD Vance made to zalinsky in the white house the other day where he said you

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you campaigned against us yes he did and so did all of Europe people need to

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understand that I don’t care if you hate Donald Trump feel free get in line uh I don’t

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care how you feel about understand that American elections you remember when they accused Donald Trump of being

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Russia Russia Russia that Russia was tipping the scale on that and that all turned out to be a Lie by the way um you

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know what isn’t a lie Europe tipping the scale on behalf of Joe Biden and kamla

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Harris um that’s what they did and then when because they didn’t want Trump to

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be president because they are afraid of trump because Trump is threatening to shake everything up and then once Trump

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got elected I just want to remind people it’s Europe that worked with the Biden Administration you know the

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administration that lost the election that’s outgoing to be replaced by an Administration that w a mandate maybe

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not as big as Trump says but it’s still a mandate to govern nonetheless of change and they worked with Biden to

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Trump proof Trump proof are the words they used American policy in Europe so

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that Donald Trump would not have any latitude to maneuver VV Russia stopping

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the war in Ukraine now they failed on this but now Trump comes in these are

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three-time losers these are people who are part of a rules-based international

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order that is on its way out for the better I think of the world these are people who tried to tip the scale

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against Donald Trump and again Donald Trump is a thin skinned narcissistic

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egomaniac who is vindictive as hell I mean when you if you poke Donald Trump

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in the eye you’re getting poked back that’s just I’m not saying that’s right I’m saying that’s a fact and they tried

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to steal the election from him and then they tried to tie his hands and now Donald Trump is taking action Europe is

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in a panic and now why are they doing what they’re doing well you know this isn’t their first rodeo with Donald

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Trump remember 2016 oh yes he won an election back then too that nobody

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thought he was going to win and he ran on a campaign that said he’s gonna tie up NATO and he’s gonna do all this kind

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of stuff what they did back then was to conspire with a democratic control

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Congress to conspire with the Deep state to tie up Donald Trump to bind him to

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prevent him from doing anything crazy while they just rode him out for four years

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years and then Biden came in and everybody was happy Biden came in and said you know we have a sacred trust to

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Europe those are words that those European power Elites love to hear a sacred Duty for Americans to die for

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Europe well Trump isn’t going to let Americans die for Europe and now the Europeans are trying to play the same

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game they are trying to create a situation to complicate to disrupt

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Trump’s policy prerogatives um and write them out for four years in hopes that somewhow and two years the Democrats can

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reestablish some sort of control over Congress so they can further tie their hands because if they don’t tie Donald

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Trump’s hands up policy-wise it’s over for them Sabby they can’t afford to do

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what they’re saying they’re going to try to do I I was I was wondering that I was like

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how are they gonna afford to but whatever 800 800 billion euro is what they’re talking about I can first of all

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I can guarantee you that by the time if they were serious about doing this this is going to end up costing about 3.2

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trillion Euro and they’re still not going to be able to do it you know let’s just put this in a proper

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perspective NATO the military arm of NATO is atrophied muscle it’s not out of

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shape muscle it’s atrophied muscle it’s equivalent let’s say you have a home let’s say you want

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to buy a home or or you own a home I own a home it’s 50 years old um it needs

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some help it really does so if you view NATO as a you know 80-year-old home that

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just basically you need to go get a home equity loan let’s call it an 800 billion Euro home equity loan that’s what

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they’re talking about and you’re going to borrow this money and you’re going to put a new roof on the house put a new heater in there um get some siding in

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make everything look good and all that stuff but the problem is this is the

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kind of home equity loan that doesn’t just hang out there for 10 years you got to start paying it back immediately

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medely so you borrow the money and within the first month payments doe at

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14% because that’s what they’re borrowing at but now in a home equity loan it’s not as though you get the roof

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right now let’s say they say well you’re G to order the roof but we’re not going to be able to get the roof in for another two years well wait a minute in

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that two year time before I get my roof I gotta be paying this money back oh it’s not 800 billion anymore is it it’s

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probably down to about 650 billion before you even got anything done you’ve already had to put money out there and

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then the same thing with the basement and what you realize is before you can put the roof on all the beams are rotten

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you got to replace the beams we didn’t budget for that that’s going to be even more money that’s gon to take you more and the lead time and everything is

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you’re going to run out of money before you had anything done and the house is a wreck anyways you might as well tear it down NATO is a rotten edifice the

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militaries in NATO are so broken they can’t be fixed literally the only thing that propped them up was the United

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States military the promise of American Military intervention the stiffening of

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their spine but you take America out of the equation and Europe literally has

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nothing they have no defense industry worthy of the name they’ve got no ability to build a defense industry

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because they’ve been going in the opposite direction um they’ve been de-industrializing instead of building a

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solid industrial base and their militaries are they’re corrupt and I don’t mean corrupt in terms of you know

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uh the kind of corruption about money they’re corrupt in the sense that they they don’t let’s just be frank what does

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the military exist for is it a parade ground force is it something that you

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put in the barracks so it looks good on paper no a military to be effective has to be a killing machine I mean I don’t

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mean to be blunt here but I’m just telling you the truth if you want to say you have a military that means that the people that you put in the military you

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got to be trained killers that means you got to put the time and effort into to organize them equip them and train them

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to do this awful job Europe has not been in the business of being trained Killers for 80 years well I could shouldn’t say

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that I would say during the Cold War they were ready to do the fight but since 1991 when the Cold War ended Europe’s

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been the business of eating schnitzel drinking beer and getting fat they don’t

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fight and they don’t know how to fight they don’t know what fighting is and if they ever went into combat they would

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all die I’m not talking about sending a handful of Europeans off to Afghanistan

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where they engag in low intensity conflict I’m talking about high-intensity conflict like being waged

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between the ukrainians and the Russians there’s not a single European military that can survive in that environment

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there’s not one and the reason is they haven’t been investing in the military

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you can’t just turn this around overnight it’s like me you know let’s say I was a bodybuilder at some point in

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time and I was you know competitive trust me that never happened um but

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Then I then I went on the couch for for a long time and all I did is eat Doritos

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and uh you know drink you know high fructose corn syrup infused soda pop and

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my only exercise was getting up from the couch to the refrigerator and back to the couch and then about 40 years later

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I say I wanna I want to go box or I want to go lift I’m going to go to the gym

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for one week and get it done what do you think the odds of that happening are what do you think the odds of me getting

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this the decrepit body in shape at all it’s going to be hard work that’s what Europe is they’ve been on the couch for

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so long they don’t know how to do anything they can’t even open the door to the gym let alone get in the gym and

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lift the British right now are talking just I mean thank goodness for the British military because starmer the the

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Prime Minister has been saying we’re gonna be the lead we’re going to put boots on the ground we’re gonna have planes in the air we’re going to do this

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we’re going to do that we’re going to do this that do this do that do this that the military went we can’t do any of

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that at least the British military is honest you know if you took the entire British Military and put them in um you

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know a large British soccer stadium you’d have 30 to 40 unsold

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seats the British military is diminished and is shrinking they can’t fight I

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think they have uh they’re able to field you know maybe 40 tanks and I don’t know

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how many of those would be op 40 tanks saby 40 tanks that’s nothing and they’re talking

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about taking on Russia and now you have or Sil of underline remember when she was the Minister of Defense of Germany

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she broke the German military that’s how bad she is these people don’t know what they’re talking about what they’re doing

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is posturing they’re making noise they’re posturing they’re bluffing they’re trying to convince America not

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to leave they want to keep America in so they’re saying this is what we’re willing to do if you leave please don’t

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go uh but the reality is they can’t do any of that and the good news is the

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Russians know this the only thing that bothers the Russians is when the French start talking about flexing their

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nuclear muscles that’s when the Russians get a little concerned but when it comes to the conventional aspect of European

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military power Russia’s not worried at all a Russia’s not planning on invading Europe it’s just not in the works and B

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Russia’s not worried about Europe building up a military that capable of fighting the Russians so there’s just a lot of talk a lot of

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hot air but Europe can’t afford it I’ll just leave you this Germany tried this you know in 2022 Olaf Schultz the former

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chancellor of Germany tried that hundred billion dollar infusion into the German military to make German military great

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again never a good idea but um he wanted to make the German military great again a 100 billion Euro and they got the

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money they borrowed the money and exactly what I told you was going to happen 100 billion happened to the 100

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billion they started to invest and they realized these are all long lead projects that they want so they they

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have to put the money down but they have to start paying the money back literally within the first year

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that 100 billion became 60 billion then it turned into 40 billion then they ran out of money and nothing was done last

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year the German defense minister Pistorius went to the Parliament and said I need you to increase the defense

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budget so we can um keep this going and they went nah you’re getting 1.7

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% I think inflation was like 2.3% what does that mean that means that

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the German military instead of growing as the 100 billion do Euros were supposed to do shrunk because they

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didn’t have enough money they only had enough money they couldn’t keep ahead of inflation so the Germans instead of

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growing the military had to cut it back further so that 100 billion Euro that they invested to grow their military

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made their military smaller weaker worse if they spend this 800 billion if they

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if they budget for this what I can guarantee is this the European militaries the collective military will

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be weaker smaller and Europe will be bankrupt even further this is the

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dumbest thing Europe’s ever thought of doing interesting interesting yeah when

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I saw that I was just like uh where are you gonna get the money to do that but whatever okay um borrow it from

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themselves yeah it’s just that’s that that would that would just be insane but I want to pivot to um I’m sure you heard

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about what happened to the two uh journals I want to show this to everybody here um another thing that

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happened uh over the weekend there were two journalists that were killed in Israel and shows to everybody

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developments out of Gaza today where two Palestinian journalists Muhammad Mansour

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and husan Shabbat were killed by the Israelis last year 24 journalists were

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killed around the world 2third of them inside Gaza Bill more come unfortunately

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Trey yings thank you live and right so for those who were not aware um I did see the segment earlier

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this morning that Ryan Grim covered about those two journalists that were uh killed in Gaza apparently I guess uh

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Ryan uh may have known one of them as as like a work colleague um but it’s it’s

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very apparent um what is continuing to happen uh in in Gaza which I didn’t I

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did not expect uh there to be like real peace like I knew we talked about this before that

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the ceasefire was like a temporary thing Etc um but there have been uh over 600

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people now that have been killed in Gaza since uh Israel broke the ceasefire uh

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recently last time that you were here you said that Trump was playing a a

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different game and you didn’t think that this was it didn’t sound like you were thinking that it was going to go in this

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direction but the money that Donald Trump took for his campaign says the exact opposite so

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it’s like now we’re seeing you know obviously once again Israel is still killing people in in Gaza uh again a lot

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of civilians a lot of children and they’re back to targeting journalists one of the things that they said on breaking points this morning is that

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those particular journalists were targeted they just it wasn’t that I want people to understand that it wasn’t that

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they just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time they were directly targeted so I’m curious to hear

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what is your opinion about that now what do you mean what is my opinion

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I condemn the murder of journalists uh clearly truth is not the friend of Israel or the friend of the United

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States uh remember whatever Israel is doing in Gaza is a policy that’s been

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green lit by the United States supported by the United States um I don’t

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understand what Trump is doing uh here um you know I take a look at his Russia

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policy and I see a man who is dedicated to Bringing about peace and therefore I take him seriously or I took him serious

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I took him at face value when I extended that um that Embrace of peace and

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peaceful outcomes uh to the Middle East and you know why not he sent Steve W

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witkoff in there and um and got a ceasefire when when Biden was unable to get a ceasefire and so I was you know

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convinced that he was promoting peace uh this seems to have gone off the grid um

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not only is Israel doing whatever the hell they want to do in Gaza which is equivalent you know basically continuing

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their genocidal policies of the past and it is genocide um and you know one of

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the reasons why they kill journalists who are on the ground in Gaza is because they want deny uh the rest of the world

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access to Accurate reporting about the crimes that are being committed on a daily basis by the Israelis but you know

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then he goes off and he doubles down um remember Donald Trump in 2019 said that uh he condemned people for getting us

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involved in Endless wars in the Middle East and uh Wars to take American treasure and cost American lives um and

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then he gets us uh involved in a shooting war in Yemen where we have American bombers flying multiple sorties

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over Yemen a day every day um killing hundreds of uh Yemen civilians many of

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them children bombing hospitals doing to Yemen what Israel does to Gaza um you

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know so that’s not a man of peace and now we’re being told that he’s U he’s dispatched a number of B2 bombers and U

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you know tankers to Diego Garcia uh to begin an air campaign at least threatening to be an air campaign

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against Iran um literally Gonna Get Us involved in that that war that he claimed that he didn’t want us to get in

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I thought when Donald Trump um posted on his social media the video clips of

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Jeffrey Sachs condemning Benjamin Netanyahu uh for getting America tied down Wars in Iraq and elsewhere that

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that was Donald Trump’s way of saying I’m not going to make that same mistake but it looks like he’s making that same

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mistake um I had thought that maybe if he had surrounded himself with the

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zionists that it was sort of a Take On The Godfather keep your enemies clo your friends close but your enemy closer uh

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but no it turns out that the zionists are calling the shots on Middle East policy and um you know I was wrong what

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what can I say um you know the the facts speak for themselves I was hopeful I I

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wanted to believe that uh Trump was serious about giving peace a chance

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um but actions speak louder than words and right now we have American aircraft

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bombing Yemen civilians we have Mor aircraft U massing he sent a threatening

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letter to the Iranian leadership that foreclosed any opportunity or any potential of direct negotiations between

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the United States and uh and and Iran and unless there’s some you know big

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game being played here um that you know in the end he pulls a rabbit out of the hat or something like that it looks like

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we’re headed for a major Middle Eastern conflict and the one that Donald Trump said he campaigned on saying he didn’t

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want to uh get involved in well I’m GL I’m glad that you you

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admit that Scott because I think um well just just say I don’t admit anything see

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I’m an analyst Sabrina I’m a professional analyst this what I did my entire life this isn’t about admitting

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you were wrong you you know what analysts do they make assessments based upon the available facts when I made the

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facts to you last time we weren’t bombing Yemen when I made the facts to you la the last time we didn’t have

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airplanes uh you know gathering in Diego Garcia what I do and what I did for a

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living remember I used to brief you know the White House secretary generals commanders and chief uh I wasn’t some

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amateur what you do though is things happen you brief based upon the situation and then data comes in and you

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look at D and you go hey things have changed you know uh it’s not that I was

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wrong I mean I was wrong in my prediction predictive analysis is always a tricky game it’s like being a

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weatherman you don’t know exactly what the weather’s gonna do but I it’s I’m not going to sit here and play the game

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that I was wrong I was right at the time I was right at the time because we weren’t at War I was right at the time

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because he did have a policy that said he wanted peace I put certain emphasis on certain things but you know analysts

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always have to reassess situations and the good analysts do so without fear but

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I what I don’t want to do is open the door for people going Scot rter was wrong I’ll tell you what why don’t you

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come and do this for a while all you people out there to take the cheap shots go to the White House and see how you

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stand up giving predictive analysis to The Situation Room stand in front of that audience and do I’ve done it twice

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all right guys this is what happens things happen what you have to do is

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call it as you see it and right now I’m calling it as I see it you know we may find out that Donald Trump isn’t going

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to bomb Iran and now we have to come around and when that happens I have to you breed me on your show I’ll say looks

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like Donald Trump didn’t bomb Iran so now what is the game and then you have to do that all over again it’s not it’s

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not a mark of shame to get it wrong it’s a mark of Shame not to absorb the new

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information and put out and anybody can sit there and say oh I knew this then God do the job don’t rely on me if you

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can do this if you’ve got the crystal ball then you come out and do this for a living all right it’s a tough thing to

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do um but no I’m not going to sit here and say oh I was wrong and I I don’t apologize for anything I gave you honest

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assessment then and I’m giving you honest assessment now and uh that’s just the way it goes um in the world of you

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know highlevel analysis you got to change your assessment every day that’s why they

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call certain events gamechanging events that means it you know you could be a

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sport analyst I think the Patriots are gonna do great this year and they are

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they’re moving Tom Brady breaks his leg I don’t think the Patriots are going to do as well as I thought they were

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going to do why there was a game-changing event Tom Brady broke his leg oh so you had to change things do

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you admit you were wrong no when I made my initial assessment Tom Brady’s leg wasn’t broken but now it is broken it’s

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uh you know I and I don’t mean to come off on you I don’t I’m not picking on you it’s just a I’m fed up with um you

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know the the the long range snipers from you know the people in the cheap seats who thinks that this is an easy thing to

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do um give it a shot try it you talking about social media oh I

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hate social media with a passion right now yeah I I I just it’s I’m I’m I’m I’m

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fed up because the other thing that happens I mean you’ve get you get the the moralizers out there um you know for

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instance I’ll say uh Iran is a signatory to the nuclear nonproliferation treaty

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statement of fact uh Iran is obliged under nuclear nonproliferation treaty not to have nuclear weapons statement of

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fact um Iran has behaved in a way which has caused concern for the international

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atomic energy agency about its nuclear program statement of fact um and if Iran

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does produce nuclear weapons it would by definition constitute a threat to International Peace and security

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statement of fact that the security Council of the United Nations statement of fact might authorize military force

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to be used against it and if I say all that they go Scott no Iran has a moral

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right to have nuclear weapons well you know what happens when you say that you

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just disinvited yourself from any real world table where this issue could be

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resolved I have no problem with people saying we shouldn’t bomb Iran and we should be seeking alternative methods to

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deal with you I’m all on board with that but when people are lecturing me an arms control specialist has been doing this

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at the tippy tippy tippy end of the spear for a long time and they say no Scott forget the npt forget treaties

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forget all that Iran has a moral obligation to have nuclear weapons I say

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you’re literally insane you don’t know who you’re talking about but you can say this on social media and get away with

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it but you know where you can’t say it in the halls of power in the places in

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the world where real things happen well do you do you think anyone should have nuclear

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weapons I think that when the nuclear nonproliferation treaty was signed there were five declared nuclear weapon States

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so they are allowed to have nuclear weapons but they also agreed as part of the npt to work towards getting rid of

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these weapons that is their moral obligation to build a nuclear-free world so I believe there are nations that are

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legally permitted to have nuclear weapons and I also believe that these nations have a moral duty to live up to

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the promises that were made when the npt was signed to get rid of nuclear weapons but since that time we’ve seen the

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proliferation of nuclear weapons and we’ve gone from the five original members who were the five permanent

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members of the security Council and we’ve added India Pakistan North Korea has been brought in Israel has been

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brought in they’re not a Ator neither is North Korea anymore it’s become a very complicated situation and what I don’t

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want to do is see it become even more complicated what I’d like to do is to see a situation where we can wrap our

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hands around this and begin the process of you know nuclear disarmament creating a denuclearized world that’s responsible

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talk when but there’s people out there saying no no I mean the other one I like is everybody should have nuclear

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weapons again you you’re not going to get this fly on social media where you have a bunch of ill-informed

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well-meaning people who are saying all this I can guarantee you that’s never

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spoken where real decisions are made and that’s the problem with social media is

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that exists an environment where no real decisions are made it’s it’s a free flow which is fine I I think it’s great to

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have the free flow of information but to pretend that you your voice matters when

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you say Iran should have nuclear weapons not even Iran R will agree you with you on this one and I can certainly tell you

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that the rest of the world would never agree with this uh but that’s that’s the problem with social media is that you’ve

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get just a lot of unrealistic moralizing from people who Frankly Speaking don’t have the resume that um that would

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normally allow them to be present to make such a case uh but social media

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anybody can become the expert of the day and that’s what happens they all become Experts of the day

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well I well I I don’t think you should have to have a resume but but I will say

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that um I I don’t agree with nuclear weapons at all I don’t think any country

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should have nule I’m on board with you I’m I’m I’m a big uh Global zero guy I I

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believe that all nuclear weapon but now the question I have for you Sabrina is how do we get

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there how where we are today to there there has to be a demand

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the powers that be to dearm right but how but how do we create the confidence for instance when you’re

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the Russians and you have this nuclear Arsenal and the United States has been saying their SE for the last several

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decades that together with NATO we’re seeking the Strategic defeat of Russia and the only thing that prevents them

31:15

from acting on that decisively is Russia’s nuclear deterrence and so now you’re to the Russians and Sabrina and

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Scott are going you got to get rid of the nuclear weapons and they’re going that ain’t going to happen how about the Chinese they wa wake up one morning

31:28

found out that America is getting ready prepared to launch a nuclear preemptive attack regarding Taiwan the Chinese go H

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that’s not a good thing we’re going to modernize our nuclear force we’re going to make it complicated build silos put

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things in the ground so they just expanded it and now they’ve created genuine nuclear deterrence and now

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Sabrina and Scott go but you gotta get rid of your nuclear weapons and they’re gonna go ain’t gonna happen North Korea

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there’s going to go hey uh let me mention two names to you Saddam Hussein and muar Gaddafi and there’s a reason

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why Kim Jong-un ain’t going to give up his nuclear weapons because regime changes the American

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policy you see we live in a real world and while I agree that we have to we

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should be getting rid of these how do we get there is the question and the best way to get there is not to allow anybody

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else to build nuclear weapons capability which is why I’m adamantly Drawing the Line at you know with Iran you because

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the second you say well it’s okay for Iran to have it then Saudi Arabia is going to want them turkey may want them

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um it’s a dangerous situation so we should be this is why I supported Donald Trump in his first term in his

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denuclearization effort with North Korea you know the one that everybody mocked how dare he meet with Kim Jong-un well

32:44

my God how do you expect North Korea to get rid of their nuclear weapons if you don’t have these meetings and build

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confidence trust you know so that they can believe that they will be safeguarded if they get rid of these

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weapons we have to start talking about how we build a universe in America in in the

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world where people can be comfortable getting rid of nuclear weapons um but that can’t happen when you have a

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screaming mass of people out there saying no no no the global South must create their own nuclear deterrence

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against the imperialist forces of the United States well Sabrina if that’s their thinking we’re never going to get rid of

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nuclear weapons because all we’re going to see is proliferation then one day they’re going to be used

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and Chain Reaction we all die this is why you know nuclear disarm is such a

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very it’s just extremely difficult thing to do I’ve done it I’m one of the few people that actually did it um and I can

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tell you how difficult it is to get that that job done to to build up a treaty framework for that you know all these

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people out there screaming you can’t have treaties with America well you know what guys the intermediate nuclear forces treaty when it was in operation

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was an American treaty and we got rid of an entire class of nuclear weapons weapons that threatened International

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Peace and security and could have brought the end of Europe we got rid of them that’s America did that you know we

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gosh Imagine That America doing something good Americans doing something good because it was American inspectors

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going over to to the Soviet Union to implement it and the Soviet inspectors Coming to America to implement that you

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we are capable of doing good things and um I’d like to believe that we could do good things again in the future and

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that’s why I push back back against people who keep screaming how bad America is how evil America is you know

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I’m not going to sit here and say that everything America does is good I’m not even going to say most of the things we do is good we got a lot of problems but

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you know what we’re big we’re powerful you can’t ignore us and the best thing

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to do is to try and get the American people to facilitate change from within so our government reflects the values

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that we claim to do so we are better Global neighbors but um I don’t know how

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you feel about this but you know I uh I’d like to believe that Americans can can um can solve the problems of

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America um and uh and we don’t need you know all the the others in the world you

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know trying to chop us down while we’re doing it because it’s difficult to try and solve the many problems we Face uh

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you know having people come at and try and take your knees out so yeah I push back against anybody that pushes up

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against America because I believe that America is a is is

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the most powerful Nation on the planet today uh and we have the the greatest

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capacity to to do good if we just give our chance ourselves a chance to do that

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um and I’m not going to sit back idly while people try to diminish um diminish

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America I know our history I know our history very well and I’m not proud of our history we’ve done many things wrong

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but like I said I’m a living example of a time when we did things right and what we did is we saved the world from

35:55

nuclear Annihilation that’s sort of a big big one so um I’ll take that ledger any day of the week who’s trying to take

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our knees out again you you you you get the uh the

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you get the voices from uh from the the global South I’m not going to empower them by naming them here on your show uh

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but there’s a number of um you know people out there that um that promote

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anti-imperialism okay I’m I’m all for that but anti-imperialism means anti-americanism it means that they are

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against America that they wish America harm saby you you can go on X and see it all day long the people that say America

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is evil America must be brought down Etc and that um the reason why I’m bringing

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this is up is that you know we speak of trying to build up alternative media and

36:44

social media as a as an alternative to mainstream media I think we could be in agreement that mainstream media is

36:49

fundamentally broken and corrupt and is incapable of putting the real truth out there and so if we’re trying to take

36:56

fact-based arguments and transfer it from mainstream media to Alternative media and to social media

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platforms to engage in the kind of debate discussion and dialogue that’s necessary to solve these problems to

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empower people with knowledge and information um then only to find that as you try to speak out you get drowned out

37:16

by the voices that hate America want to bring America down and all that stuff that that sort of negates the value of

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alternative media and social media uh instead of having the clarity of of of

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of purpose um and then what happens is we drown ourselves out with the caffy of

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noise and mainstream media reemerges as the dominant source of news because uh

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it they’re able to do that unchallenged they don’t have people trying to contradict them I’m still stuck on the

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anti-imperialism piece anti-imperialism doesn’t mean that you hate America it means that you want the US you want this

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country to stop stealing resources from other countries and impoverishing those countries in doing so that doesn’t mean

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that you hate the United States it means well actually Sabrina if you read their post they want America to

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collapse means you hate America that means they hate you by the way they want they want your economy to collapse they

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want you to lose your job they want our society to fall apart and I’m not in

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favor of that and I will never support that I I think you might be taking the opinion of a couple of people on on

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social media as what anti-imperial anti-imperialism is and I I highly uh I highly recommend

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that you don’t do that it’s like I mean these you know you don’t even know who

38:37

some of these people are right like sometimes these are just accounts so I highly recommend that you’re not taking

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their word for what anti-imperialism means anti-imperialism means that you just really don’t think that the US this

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country which has been doing so for so long should not be stealing resources from other

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countries it it doesn’t mean it means saby I I I I know exactly what it means

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and I know what our country has done the good and the bad um what I’ve chosen to

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do and this what is what irritates so many people is I’ve chosen to draw a line between um and and people are like

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oh you jumped on the Trump bandwagon what I did do is I I I I said that I and

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I accept this that Trump is fundamentally different from the past if if you’ve been studying me at all you

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know that I was very anti an Biden I was anti-trump the first time around I was anti- Obama I was anti- Bush I was anti-

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Clinton why very things you’re talking about the imperialistic uh hegemonic

39:39

policies of the United States and one of the big problems I I I

39:44

had with these policies that they were leading us towards unsustainable Global confrontation that would ultimately lead

39:51

to nuclear war and we’d all die U and we came so very dangerously close to that

39:56

last all I don’t think Americans realize how close we came twice in September and November of having a nuclear war with

40:02

Russia only now people are starting to recognize just how dangerous that was we have a president now that’s trying to

40:09

change that move us in a different direction is he perfect not even close um are does America still have you what

40:16

we call imperialist policies around of course we do we we still do bad things around the world but the big picture is

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we’re moving we’re trying to move in a way that prevents nuclear war that means that I need to be supportive of these

40:30

policies um and it’s very difficult to say that you support these policies while you’re uh attacking um you know

40:39

the the the foundational aspects of the government or the nation that that this this

40:45

President represents when you have a president commit that the rules-based international order is the enemy why

40:51

don’t we give them a chance to actually follow through on policies to to dismantle because you know what the key to American imperialism is you know the

40:58

facilitating vehicle for that the vectors it’s the rules based International order we steal from people

41:04

in so many ways the international monetary fund the World Bank and all this stuff these are the things that this President’s trying to

41:10

dismantle and uh so I’m in favor of giving him a shot I know he does bad things I know I’m not sitting here gonna

41:16

sing the Praises of Yemen or Gaza or Iran um and and those policies but I

41:23

think that you know we have to understand that there has to be balance here that he’s trying to do things to uh

41:30

to alter the way America interfaces with the world and there’s just people out there that don’t want to give him a

41:35

chance don’t in in my and my con my response is what are the Alternatives what are the Alternatives

41:41

if you’re going to say you’re going to oppose this President you want him to do what continue the rules-based international order continue using the

41:49

IMF and the World Bank to hold third world uh Global South economies Hostage

41:55

to the whim of American policy

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I think that those things would happen regardless if the president was a Democrat or or republican if it was

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Trump or Biden because the reality is you can’t continue to steal from these countries and then say things like I

42:14

don’t want the people to leave those countries and try to go somewhere else or I don’t want any type of Revenge from

42:21

those people and if you look at some of the countries that the US government has uh just

42:28

completely demolished in my opinion like Haiti if if you look at Haiti if you

42:33

look at Yemen if you look at Somali you look at all these countries that the US government is it’s not just the us but

42:39

it’s mainly the US that the US has destroyed and then just leave the people

42:44

there and say live in that

42:50

so this type of behavior that we put out into the world it comes back home

42:58

when people ask like why can’t we respect each other here in the United States we don’t even respect we have no

43:03

respect so how are we going to treat each other with some type of dignity how are we going to support our neighbor and

43:10

lift each other up when we’re destroying the world I I I don’t I don’t disagree with

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you at all my question is how do we get out of that and I start with the basic premise

43:23

of we have to be alive to get out of that that we can’t solve anything if we’re dead because then the the problem

43:30

solved itself and to me the number one threat to the United States of America in terms of its existential survival is

43:35

nuclear war U and as I said Haiti didn’t almost kill all all Americans last year

43:42

Russia did the the our policies towards Russia and so I have decided that I am

43:48

going to prioritize my attention on saving America and the world from

43:54

nuclear war by focusing my efforts on what Trump is trying to do um with

44:00

Ukraine um and by extension what he’s doing with NATO you and I talked about the danger you know NATO is an

44:06

organization that was pushing us towards Global confrontation so if Trump is trying to disentangle America from NATO

44:14

isn’t that a good thing would shouldn’t we view that as a good thing right right that’s a good thing but still I know you

44:20

I know obviously you know you’re against like nuclear war I think the majority of of people are none of us really want

44:26

that to happened but it’s not just Russia there’s also the Middle East so

44:32

if we are heading towards some type of conflict with Iran which it seems like that’s what Israel wants to happen that

44:38

threat is still there so to answer your question when you said how do we fix this obviously this is a more long-term

44:44

project but the real answer is you have to get corporate money out of electoral politics how do we but but but how do

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you and I do that Congress won’t even touch that issue with a 10- foot pole because

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Cong you know I mean how do we get Congress to to pass laws that that do that um you have to stop voting for

45:04

people that take corporate money right but we don’t have another election for two years that’s well I mean look you

45:11

can start like you’re right you don’t have another one for another two years but this doesn’t just apply with Congress this applies on the local level

45:18

as well this is why I said like the root of the root of all of this is money like

45:24

that’s why we have these wars that’s why like the government they have these they have this connection with the military

45:29

industrial complex so there’s that and then they have the connection with Wall Street so as long as you have big money

45:35

interest and you have Lobby interest groups that are writing legislation in Congress yeah that’s why these things

45:42

don’t change speaking the same language I’m 100% behind that I I’ve been saying this forever I mean I I get in you know

45:49

I I get in big debates with people about um citizens united um you know and and

45:56

in in the con you know the the consequences of that legislation when you start calling corporations the

46:03

equivalent of people when it comes to free speech and money you’ve just destroyed you and me because you and I

46:09

maybe you someday because you know you you’ve got it in you but I’m never going to be successful enough to where I can

46:15

write checks that can balance out a corporation’s ability to influence politics and and the bottom line even if

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I could I wouldn’t because that’s wrong it you got to take money out of politics

46:27

we have to find a way to let ideas be what drives to make sure that when we vote for people it’s not because they

46:32

have the best advertisement and able to buy off of you know this that and the other thing that it’s the person that

46:38

can stand in front of an audience and articulate uh ideas about issues that matter um that get voted in um so we’re

46:47

on the we’re on the same we’re on the same page on that one but I keep you know I also have to operate within my um

46:55

you know parameters of my expertise and so my primary expertise is nuclear

47:00

nonproliferation disarmament um and you know military issues um

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I I’ll be the concerned citizen about everything else but you know my my voice will be louder in the areas where I

47:13

actually have a certain amount of um of expertise um and so I’ve made a decision

47:19

to prioritize um you know these issues over other issues first of all none of

47:25

us can do everything and what happens if you try to become a master of all trades you know was a jack of all trades but a

47:32

master of none um and then we get beat um we we really do have to become a

47:37

collective of self-supporting expertise um where we support each other

47:45

as we move towards this common goal this common objective you know

47:51

I sebie I get depressed every day when I read the news because the news is

47:56

horrible the world we live in is a horrible place and there’s things happening that we don’t even I mean you

48:02

know Gaza is just you know mind numbing but you know what else is mind- numbing

48:08

the situation in East in in eastern Democratic repu Republic of Congo where

48:13

you have 30 to 40,000 children slave labors in these open pit Minds where

48:21

they actually carve the Cobalt out of the soil with their hands poisoning their young bodies while they’re doing

48:27

it and we Americans do it so we can have this and we don’t say a damn word about

48:33

it we just ignore it so that we can have this and have this computer that you and

48:38

I are talking over and all this stuff and you know that sickens me um and

48:43

that’s happening a lot of people don’t know about it too by the way yeah but but then you go around the world as you

48:50

expand and you just realize the amount of harm that it’s not just America

48:55

that’s the other reason why I take I take offense at the look I know America’s sined a lot yes and we should

49:04

we should work to fix this and we must work to fix this but we’re not the only

49:10

ones that have these little shiny phones the whole world has them this is a

49:15

global problem um and Global greed is an issue as well uh China gets a pass on

49:23

just about everything because you know of course China’s just simply the you know economic counter to the American

49:29

imperialism and all that well China does a lot of things around the world that um

49:34

that that they need a lot of the Cobalt as well um we all every there all nations

49:41

are guilty of this and so the the question now is how do we collectively you know move in the right direction and

49:49

again my premise is we got to be alive to do that so that’s why I put a heavy emphasis on trying to stop nuclear Wars

49:56

and trying to stop nuclear nonproliferation it’s not because I don’t think everything else is important but the last time I checked there’s 24

50:03

hours in a day doctor tells me I’m supposed to sleep for eight of those hours I go to sleep for about four of

50:09

those hours um it ain’t enough um and then you know I’ve got to eat um I’ve

50:15

got to work I gotta write the but I’m supposed to absorb information too that and as you know today we it’s a fire

50:23

hose of information coming at us on this this internet thing and and it’s not just reading information but it’s also

50:29

Discerning what’s good information from bad information it all takes time and so you have to prioritize what the stories

50:36

are that you feel are the ones that you can dig it because as you know if you if

50:42

you start attacking an issue and you haven’t done your job right you’re gonna get slaughtered with the people coming

50:48

at you because when you when you have a profile like you have or like I have um people watch and believe it or not not

50:55

everybody’s out there to applaud you and thank you for what you’re doing uh there’s people out there that just get

51:00

the kicks off of ripping you apart and you the trolls yes and again Mo you

51:07

know it maybe you’re right I mean you’re right my wife has said the same thing I I spent too much time but the problem is

51:15

when you pour yourself into something when you think you’re trying to do the right thing um and you are literally

51:22

exhausting yourself trying to do the right thing um and then you know it’s

51:27

just it just overwhelms you I mean that’s why for instance I I’ve turned off comments I I used to like to read

51:33

the comments just you know because it’s sort of like sort of like a getting a EKG of how you’re uh how the interview

51:39

is going you know I I’ve stopped reading comments a long time ago and um you know but the

51:45

problem is with um like Twitter you or I guess X we call it now um that’s how you

51:52

get that’s how I get that’s how I get my news and so I’m going to be exposed to

51:57

things and I’m only human I read everything I’m I’m stupid I I should have the filter that says don’t read this don’t read this don’t read this

52:03

don’t read but I read everything just like I don’t know I can’t speak for you but most people do and it just gets down

52:09

it just after a while you’re just like why do I even bother why do I even do this you know it’s I mean I really could

52:16

get up in the morning and go fishing and that would be a lot of fun the problem is one morning I’d go fishing I’d be

52:21

casting my line out there and I’d get two sunsets because the world just ended

52:28

and um I’d like to believe that I can still contribute to processes that can

52:35

prevent that from ever happening so that’s why I get up in the morning that’s what I do what I do and I you

52:41

know I do it with a a pure heart and uh you know trying to accomplish the a

52:47

mission that I think is beneficial to all do I step on toes sure why not um

52:52

you know the shirt says Marines it does doesn’t say you

52:58

know Mr you you know that’s the soft touch I

53:03

have the opposite of the soft touch and sometimes I I rub people the wrong way but uh it’s not because I’m trying to be

53:10

a counter troll or whatever I’m just Mission focused I’m Mission focused on the job I’m trying to accomplish which

53:17

is literally at this point in time to help prevent a nuclear war and you know just just so people know that it’s not a

53:23

an issue of ego meaning you know oh I’m trying to promote we

53:29

actually had a great success last year where the projects that I were involved

53:34

in helped inject uh the the the fear of nuclear

53:40

war into mainstream politics and to get policies changed that actually helped

53:46

take us off the path towards nuclear war I’m not going to take sole credit for this but I’d like to believe that I was

53:53

part of the force that was put to you know on a vector to help shift that

53:59

policy away and maybe what I was doing was just enough to to get that finally

54:05

to change direction so this isn’t a feudal effort this isn’t about narcissism this isn’t about you know stroking

54:12

egos it’s about real change and I would also say that if the government hadn’t

54:17

seized my passport last June and I’d been able to do some of the things that that this this progress would be even

54:24

more manifest um and you know I’ll get my passport back I’ll get back on the road and I’ll continue to do what needs

54:30

to be done will I step on toes along the way yeah it’s going to happen and I

54:35

apologize to anybody whose feelings I hurt when I do step on your toes it’s not done

54:40

deliberately I try not to spend uh just a little tip for me I try not to spend a

54:45

lot of time um on social media um even even Twitter and I I I get a lot of my

54:51

news from there too but I try not to spend as much time on there and I I try my best not to be on there too late also

54:57

at night um I just don’t think it’s it’s it’s healthy for your sleep I don’t

55:03

think it’s it’s the best for mental health uh to spend a lot of time on social media so oftentimes people would

55:09

be like well I I tagged you in this I tagged you in that I’m like yeah is it like I I just I just

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don’t I I’m not old school old school but I’m also

55:20

not like I’m I’m a millennial I’m an older Millennial so I remember what it was like to not have social media

55:26

so for me it’s just I’d rather spend more of that time with people like face to face instead of like on social media

55:33

all the time sometimes it’s good to take breaks and I I tell this to everybody sometimes it’s good to take breaks from social media especially it’s more so

55:40

Twitter um to take those kind of breaks because it can be toxic you know it’s

55:46

extraordin my problem is my dogs wake me up every day around 3:30 or 4:00 and

55:53

then I let them out and then the cats want to come in so the point is around that time if you if the funny thing is

55:59

if you go check when I post my B all my ex post take place in a span in the

56:06

morning because I’m literally waiting for the dogs and the cats to do something so I’m I’m on the phone just

56:11

ah and it’s in the morning so my judgment may not be the best and so I’m like ah you said this and next thing you

56:18

know you’re involved in one of these stupid um Twitter Wars and my wife wakes up what did you do stop it put the phone

56:25

down grow up it C it can be that I hear you it can be

56:31

that well well Scott thank you so much for coming on anything you got coming up uh next you want to let everyone know

56:37

about no I mean um I I will if you allow me uh just toh say a word about a new

56:43

project that I’ve been involved in this last month is so called the Russia House it’s a uh it’s on telegram it’s a uh

56:48

it’s a subscription based service just because of the political realities right now it’s uh it’s run out of Russia I

56:55

make no money but we uh we have to pay the project has to pay for interpreters we have professional editing uh but

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basically it’s the counter to russophobia where’re bringing Russian voices uh to an American audience um

57:09

we’ve had a number of really great interviews I just did an interview with Maria zacharova the the spokesperson of

57:15

the foreign Ministry that started as an interview and ended up as a fascinating conversation as she put down her notes

57:21

and started talking from the heart and every conversation I have with the Russians always ends up way with a

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conversation from the heart so the Russia house if you guys have uh the ability to uh if anybody is interested

57:33

in empowering themselves with um the Russian point of view um the Russia

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House on Telegram and you can go to Scot r.com and you can see how to how to get to that all right Scott Ritter thank you

57:46

so much for your time thank you have a good night bye hey guys this was a savy

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Scott Ritter: Will Trump bring peace or chaos to Middle East? In this interview, Scott Ritter discusses whether Trump’s policies will bring peace or chaos to the Middle East. Trump seems more willing to settle for peace in Ukraine than in the Middle East. Is it because of Israel? Scott Ritter discusses from Iran to Gaza, Yemen to Ukraine, and Ritter provides insight on the current state of affairs in the region. We also posed questions on Iran’s nuclear weapons and the nuclear deal with the JCPOA.

Chapter

00:00 introduction

01:11 Does Trump want peace in the Middle East?

11:27 Is peace possible in Gaza?

21:52 Who is responsible in Gaza?

27:57 Is Iran responsible?

44:56 Will the US find an excuse to attack Iran?

54:16 Are Europe and Ukraine impediments to peace?

Transkripzioa:

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Geure herriari, Euskal Herriari dagokionez, hona hemen gure apustu bakarra:

We Basques do need a real Basque independent State in the Western Pyrenees, just a democratic lay or secular state, with all the formal characteristics of any independent State: Central Bank, Treasury, proper currency¹, out of the European Distopia and faraway from NATO, maybe being a BRICS partner…

1 This way, our new Basque government will have infinite money to deal with. (Gogoratzekoa: Moneta jaulkitzaileko kasu guztietan, Gobernuak infinitu diru dauka.)